Tbc boss nerfs This will immediately include Guild Banks, the Group Browser Tool, and the Arena standings update that makes team ranking viewable and award cutoff information available at special Arena NPCs. Comment by Newermore on 2022-05-27T19:55:01-05:00 Sep 28, 2024 · Were these nerfs enough? Will Blizzard regret shipping a boss this tightly tuned, or will it lead to another thrilling finish with guilds trading back-to-back nailbiting pulls? We'll just have to wait and see! Nerub-ar Palace RWF Daily Coverage Nerub-ar Palace Race to World First Coverage I'm not really sure what people were expecting but karazhan has never really been a hard raid. A hotfix went out last night for the pre-patch event that reduces the amount of health of all bosses, resulting in faster kill times. 1 was he first major patch and a total revamp to the buffs/consumes system. and regardless of what so far has been announced aka raids being post nerf, the actual raids are likely going to be a mix of both. Rather have an overtuned boss than a walkover and then getting buffed after. The reason half the pre-nerf shit bugs out in TBCC is because it was bugged as fuck in OG TBC and Blizz just removed the ability instead of fixing it. Comment by ComeAndSee on 2023-06-20T14:18:36-05:00. in vanilla it was because blizz didn't publish the nerfs and stuff as publicly and in TBC there weren't a lot of people raiding in the start. For the last time: there has been no 30% HP nerf to everything in TBC until WotLK pre-patch! I. We killed Vashj and KT pre nerf and did Hyjal and BT full clears the first week they were out. Some key nerfs from this patch include - Lady Vashj can no longer use the ability Persuasion and Toxic Spores no longer deal damage upon impact. Oct 29, 2024 · needs more dmg and health nerf then this. So it doesn't really make sense to argue about the strength of the nerfs, but rather the timing. Jailor nerfs? The supposedly hardest boss, that was ultimately actually easy, is made even easier? On nm it took me 19 tries with a pug when he first came out and we kept changing members so they had to re-learn the strats every time. I think the majority didn't care until the BT/MH attunement nerf. They should rather look into the Silken Court. Thanks Blizzard! Good work!. Datamined Mythic tuning changes before RWF guilds reached the boss are also not listed. VR is a snooze-fest, Solarian's core mechanics can be cheesed to a ridiculous degree, and KT is only difficult because of the potential for really bad RNG. For an "anniversary" event, this is F'ing hard. Dec 9, 2021 · Alongside next week's Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep boss nerfs, Blizzard has announced that players will no longer need to complete the attunements to zone into the raids. Nice? I Guess? Comment by Amalio on 2024-09-27T20:05:16-05:00. From heroics to almost every boss in raids. Specifically Is there a detailed list of nerfs coming for p1 raid content with tomorrow's phase 2 update? I could've sworn I saw something at one point but I cannot find solid numbers anywhere to show who or what is getting nerfed. Comment by BurtMacklin410 on 2020-12-22T21:38:08-06:00 What do you guys think? It's been happening all the time. Some players disagree about the Sunwell nerf because they enjoy the progress Dec 9, 2021 · Alongside next week's Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep boss nerfs, Blizzard has announced that players will no longer need to complete the attunements to zone into the raids. but with wrath patch everything was cut to pieces. There were nerfs, sure, but it’s easy to see that any nerf is an outlier. Makes me certain more and more that when the panel on Blizzconline referred to pre-nerf they were speaking about the HP (and damage?) nerf after SWP came out and not the major boss balance and tuning that happen with the 2. PDT on September 6 (1: Nov 30, 2012 · Today's news round up covers new Blizzard features for scenarios and pet battles, information on just how exactly some of the old-world bosses were nerfed for soloing purposes, and insights into why LFR no longer shows you progress status when joining. fact. A clear example is phase 3 on kaelthas which an extreme dps check. But I doubt it. :D We launched on 2. We did a pretty thorough investigation of the data of each patch between 2. 4. Jun 20, 2023 · Blizzard devs: lets nerf kazzara because it isnt a pushover entry boss Also blizzard devs: mythic zskarn is completely ok and not a rng cluster of terrible boss design and problematic spell queueing. Now it's time to nerf Rokmora in Neltharion's Lair, reduce adds spawn rate or nerf their hp pool, this boss is a real pain on higher keys + tyra and punishes melee too much May 5, 2022 · Sunwell Plateau is a 25-person raid located on the Isle of Quel'Danas in northernmost Eastern Kingdoms. It seems Blizzard forgot to toggle the doubled HP in phase 3, only phase 1 should be that greatly reduced, which was a change made to speed up phase 1 without changing the rest of the encounter. 1 era of the game. 1, but it doesn't really matter because Classic TBC has a player base that all started at the same time and is unlikely to see a ton of new players during the life of the expansion, unlike original TBC. Presumably we will still see the 3. Lady Vashj – Persuasion no longer provides crowd control immunity. If they don't make CS/ES actually better than BM rune, then it's pointless and any compensatory buffs are mutually exclusive to the BM nerfs. If anything, considering the output of most classes goes up and boss dmg output goes down before the HP nerf, the bosses' HP would need to be increased to keep it all relative. Theyre developing TBC now and ten months from now is too late to have any sway, however small, on the direction of the game. Woopee-mankrik. Guna be an entire season of me having to solo the last boss in Ara Kara because brainlets think they can just steamroll everything and nobody likes being told what to do when they mess up. Dec 22, 2020 · I don't get the hate on the swirling orbs on the 2nd boss of Sanguine Depths. Heroic raids are as good/important as normal raids. 1 was always how I considered the bulk of 'TBC' to be. Yeah, even back in the day MH and BT were regarded as disappointingly undertuned coming out of T5, and that's from guilds who did not have the luxury of farming Vashj/KT for months before T6 came out. What's exactly "Kael’thas Sunstrider – The encounter is now set to its post-nerf configuration. Sep 20, 2024 · Comment by SomeKeed on 2024-09-20T19:18:57-05:00. I can easily see us in a year playing a 2. you also have to think about you dont have 4p and 2 leggos yet, when every1 have that then its just a walkover and the nerfs are just making the bosses a cakewalk. Now it pretty much should go Hydross, Lurker, Karathress/Morogrim (up to your raid which you tackle first), Morogrim/Karathress (which ever one you didn't go after first), Leothorass, Vashj. Comment by Xerta on 2024-09-30T19:06:04-05:00 during the actual content nerfs were small. Comment by Acolyyte on 2024-09-28T13:19:21-05:00. Comment by BaristanBold on 2024-09-20T22:01:23-05:00. That's cus 2. I just watched an NA GDKP run and it looks like all trash + boss nerfs are in, KT adds had same HP in P1 and P3, it was really low in both phases, murlocs had 18k hp, solarian did the baron geddon bomb instead of soaking. May 27, 2022 · Inb4 people complaining about nerfs cuz they downed a boss yesterday. Patch 2. Hello, From P1 Karazhan all the way to P5 Sunwell, warriors have consistently been the strongest physical DPS in TBC, and often the strongest DPS overall. 1% atm, nerf will follow as always. If we follow original TBC, when ZA comes out all raids should start dropping badges of justice. Can we at least know what they mean by "post-nerf configuration" on Kael'thas? And yes, my opinion is that releasing nerfs before P3 is bad. Updated itemization layered on top of actual nerfs = ez mode. Even if we did get "pre-nerf" heroics, the general skill and knowledge level of the playerbase is infinitely higher than it was back in the day, so it probably wouldn't be too difficult. Geraith #1 - July 23, 2012, Every TBC boss on Live gives 250g, end bosses drop 300g. 0. With that said I am slightly concerned that with moving to pre-nerf bosses we will hurt some classes by virtue of longer kill times. The boss nerfs in general seem extreme, outside Vashj. Only difference they are making here is that they are implementing nerfs they did in TBC from the start. This site makes extensive use of JavaScript. Comment Raid bosses are getting nerfed bc they're getting nerfed, not really as a change to mechanics. October 16, 2024 Sep 2, 2021 · Tempest Keep is a 25-player raid that is located on the eastern side of the Netherstorm. It would be nice if they paid as much attention during the expansions, but I gotta say all of this is still pretty nice. Though I think the way you tried to frame what you were saying was dishonest in the extent of nerfs that occurred between 2. But it being so early required big nerfs fast imo. Some time significantly later: another 5% p2 hp nerf. Dec 22, 2021 · If the terms “WarcraftLogs” and “parsing” mean anything to you, you have probably heard of the Gnomish Battle Chicken. Feb 22, 2021 · Classic The Burning Crusade Will Have Pre-Nerf Bosses. Данный сайт активно использует технологию JavaScript. Sep 13, 2024 · That boss was already free loot before the nerf. In Classic live the energy timer continues when powershifting (the act of switching out and quickly or instantly back into cat form or bear from as a druid with the furor talent to gain an instant boost of rage or energy) so u can get an additional 20 energy, thanks to good powershift timing. Aug 7, 2024 · Blizzard reduced the health scaling on all event bosses in the pre-patch event, making them faster to kill. Comment by Tinno on 2021-11-19T11:04:38-06:00 Jul 1, 2022 · Or Power of the Aspects (Upto 35% zone wide nerf to boss/trash hp and damage) for Dragon Soul. Comment by LionButLeon on 2023-11-19T14:24:19-06:00. Apr 3, 2021 · Funny how people are getting upset about TBC item nerf, that happened during TBC. 2-June 19, 2007 - The number of preliminary waves before each boss in the Caverns of Time: Battle for Mount Hyjal event has been reduced from 12 to 8, and some of the larger waves have fewer creatures than before. So Blizzard is turning up the difficulty. This is the correct analysis. We also have some information on new scenario rewards: some epics and recolored armor for transmog fun. Comment by Dosphal on 2021-11-19T04:34:31-06:00. Delirium has set in at the Liquid Race to World First, but Dratnos and Tettles have battled through it to bring you today's Recap video! Pre-nerfs, Hydross was normally the 3rd or 4th boss fight learned in SSC with Lurker, Morogrim, and Karathress typically being learned before Hydross. -Big tentacles had slightly more health (about 5% more) Since the last PTR and then the last Classic TBC Beta patch energy ticks as feral cat work differently. SSC is far more fun, and pre-nerf Vashj P3 was a great "hold on for dear life" style of boss fight that I've been missing since Naxx. 5. Our guild isn’t hardcore so we just raid our normal allotted times. 1. You essentially never wipe if you get into P4 and past the first egg/shield even somewhat ok. Nov 19, 2021 · So many? On Warcraft logs 10700 killed 10/10 around 12000 didn't. And they never come back. 2, a full patch cycle after… Sep 27, 2024 · Comment by SinR on 2024-09-27T20:01:32-05:00. I’m praying we see beta ASAP and a move into TBC by May. Dec 18, 2021 · Players testing the new phase 3 raids -- Black Temple & Mount Hyjal -- discovered something interesting: some of the bosses were in their "post-nerf" states and certain aspects of the raids reflected their state after changes had been made to them in patch 2. Pre Nerf KT wasnt too bad after everyone knew their role, but pre nerf Vashj had the super shitty RNG factor of the MCs that made it extra challenging even if you could get to P3 every pull. 2. Specifically, Kaivax said: Please be reminded that all bosses in Serpentshrine Cavern and The Eye will be adjusted to their final “nerfed” state with the weekly reset in each region next week. The purpose of the nerfs in Classic TBC is the same as the nerfs in original TBC. World of Warcraft non-retail server lists and discussion Feb 20, 2021 · TBC Patch on launch (which one?) - WoW Classic General Loading Current Kara on the beta is post-nerf, not pre-nerf. (Source) We’ve identified an issue with boss scaling, a Nov 19, 2021 · If you honestly care about nerfs to a 3 month old raid that most people have cleared and those who havent cleared it need the nerf then I pity your empty life. Comment by GodsFaith on 2024-09-30T18:55:40-05:00. It's not entirely clear when Sunwell nerfs would go into effect, but I guess with T5 they showed it can be a little earlier than the proper end of the tier would have been. Comment by CountryCount on 2024-09-14T02:40:14-05:00. Before then, Blizzard only applied aimed nerfs at specific bosses. Jul 23, 2012 · Old raid gold nerfs. Aug 31, 2021 · Lady Vashj is the sixth and final boss of the Serpentshrine Cavern raid instance. Thank God. Keal was literally unkillable due to bugs, half the time he would reset in the errbody flyin phase. 1 Patch Notes, many new Mythic+ dungeon changes have been announced. Also There was no 'Phase 2' equivalent patch in OG TBC though there was a a series of smaller patches and almost weekly hotfixes done to change, nerf, buff shit. 3 Looking for livestreams, guilds to watch, and analytics to dive into? Check out the Wowhead RWF Coverage Article for the latest lists of streamers, raid coverage, and boss guides. Just like Classic is nerfed right now with all the compounded things like reworked talents and reworked itemization layered on top of actual boss nerfs. This is just a flat out nerf bc content is outdated once pre-patch drops. By no means is this a "boss instantly dies nerf" at all, more like boss was nigh unkillable with week 1 gear, or at least wouldve taken at least another day. wile its true that tbc is a big step up from vanila (that isnt saying much),you have to be kidding if you think anything in tbc is even close or even HARDER(facepalm) to todays raids,here we go again with the roze goggles tbc's difficult parts came from extreme bugs,or extreme overtuning,like muru getting 40% hp nerfs if i recal The Nerub-ar Palace Race to World First is underway! Dratnos & Tettles discuss Ansurek's enrage, boss nerfs and tuning, and more in the RWF Day 11 recap. 3 Balance - No Tuning Over Time; WoW Q&A Recap; TBC Classic Beta Opt-In; Five Phases of TBC Classic; Seals of Blood & Vengeance for Both Factions; Classic TBC Will Have Pre-Nerf Bosses; TBC: Deep Dive Panel Recap; No Gold Cap on Transfers; TBC Classic Characters & Realms Bluepost Nov 11, 2024 · What a thought provoking comment you left! Comment by Ruenan94 on 2024-11-11T16:58:02-06:00. This change makes sense since the common Heroic strat was to not bother dealing with that mechanic at all in Phase 3 and this should make it easier and incentivize players to do the Feb 19, 2021 · Classic The Burning Crusade Will Have Pre-Nerf Bosses. Sep 30, 2024 · Godsend nerfs to be honest, maybe you just should start to participate in this content aswell? :) Dungeons are tuned for the top 0. But prior to TBC, anyone who wanted to play a warrior was laughed off this subreddit, class discords, guild chat, etc. etc M'uru got three nerfs. Another update will be which version of raid boss will be available. I’m hoping they know it is post-nerf and just launched it to streamline testing of basic mechanics. According to Warcraftlogs, now we have 21k guilds killed 14/14 BT / Hyjal but only 2. Comment by Unclemusty on 2024-09-16T19:47:21-05:00. November 18, 2020, 2:43pm #27. 3, as well as looked at public patch notes and just came to the conclusion that there wasn’t enough of substance for an interesting pre-nerf difficulty. 4 which made every t4 t5 t6 boss far easier so everyone could catch up and have a solid look at Sunwell. people just cared less in vanilla/tbc. 0 nerfs when they do push Wrath Classic prepatch. Sunwell doesnt have as much of that RNG factor like Pre Nerf Vashj and is definitely more like KT in general. The KT HP nerf also doesn't do much for difficulty. Many boss abilities were removed or reworked, most notably Lady Vashj would no longer use Persuasion to mind-control players. Kael’thas Sunstrider – The encounter is now set to its post-nerf configuration. More. The power gains came from the 1. May 2, 2022 · Tbh I was hoping for another Lords of Dread nerf lol. Comment by solindvian on 2024-02-06T10:00:29-06:00 M'uru got a significant nerf (10% HP on everything but the Voids), and KJ got minor nerfs. The nerfs happened later in TBC than patch 2. Posted by u/Dipperskipper - No votes and 39 comments Jan 3, 2025 · don't worry they'll nerf it at the end of the season thats their problem they implement changes that should be day 1 to stuff at the end of a season and then dont learn. Alar did dive bomb on single person that did no damage instead of stacking. 1 nerfs would have been almost the same really. Tbc will be fucking awesome if we get pre nerf heroics, kara, vashj, etc. " is? Wowhead wrote 10% hp nerf to advisors/weapons based on wowpedia but I've seen old videos with capernian and telonicus hp cut in half and Kael with 3,5mil hp (from 6mil) Feb 23, 2021 · First of all - what a fantastic announcement with TBC coming around the corner. So I'd say it was a good sized nerf, unless you want half 1k+ WR guilds to disband In a perfect World, halondrus would be a 2nd last boss, then they could have gone incremental in nerfs. In phase 3 the advisors should have 10% less HP post-nerf, instead they have -60% HP which was never how it was in actual TBC post-nerf. That was very early on and was done to compensate for reducing consume usage. Sep 12, 2024 · it was post nerf until someone made a bug report and they decided to change it, as for kara being easy as it should, imagine actually giving a f about kara being a challenge lol. The only nerf he ever received was the Wrath pre-patch blanket 30% health and damage nerf that applied to every single TBC raid mob and world boss. Sep 28, 2024 · They've added a stacking damage/healing buff as the raid tier progresses to soft nerf the bosses. Comment by Setsuna665 Along with a lot of damage output nerfs and a lot of trash nerfs Id assume. Can clear it EASY without even having "prebis" gear. The rep requirement to get into dungeons is the only heroic dungeon nerf we'll be seeing, which apparently you don't understand. Alongside next week's TBC Classic Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep boss nerfs, Blizzard has announced that players will no longer need to complete ANd Kil'Jaeden will be a really tough boss. This Burning Crusade Classic guide will highlight information about Sunwell Plateau including its location, bosses, and the loot found within this raid. There seems to be a lot of misinformation here. Also, Arthas will be UNDEFEATABLE, and will probably be so Crazy strong, noone can kill him :P Apr 3, 2021 · It was a very viable raiding trinket throughout TBC, despite being from Classic. Feb 19, 2021 · In einem Interview für PCGamer verrieten Production Director Patrick Dawson und Lead Producer Holly Longdale, dass The Burning Crusade Classic zum Start mit Bossen aus der Zeit vor den Nerfs aufwarten wird, da die Spieler über jahrzehntelanges Wissen über den Inhalt verfügen. Comment by Kkura on 2022-05-27T19:50:05-05:00. May 28, 2021 · Growl—In TBC, taunts are modified to use Hit Rating rather than Spell Hit Rating when determining their resist chance, but still use a 17% base resist chance compared to 9% for all other melee abilities. Unbelievable. The bigger enemy was that it’s summer and that Wotlk was announced. But keep being toxic, it’s just what the game needs :) Phase 3 was released on Week 17 of original TBC; we're already at Week 23 on TBC Classic. Comment by Redemption86 on 2022-10-01T22:14:31-05:00. I played TBC pretty hardcore for its whole duration. Morogrim Tidewalker – Tidewalker Lurkers’ health has been reduced to their post-nerf values. Comment by TOMRUS on 2024-10-29T14:16:15-05:00. 0 HP, the Wrath prepatch which is commonly confused for TBC nerfs. During Phase 2 PVE population dropped from 381k (09-22-2021) to 295k (12-08-2021). ) It was still a 75 to 100 pull boss for mid/late CE guilds. Just as well, their class balance philosophy in Classic always veered towards “buff the weak, don’t nerf the powerful,” which I believe is paraphrased from a Kevin Jordan interview. Oct 1, 2022 · Some boss and trash abilities need heavy nerfs there if not redesigned or outright removed, like they did with Lower Kara. I'm actually all for much bigger nerfs on trash just to cut raid time. 3, heroic keys effectively removed by making them honored, etc. 0 KT/Vashj had single digit clear numbers in 07 because they were buggy piles of shit on top of being brutally hard. Dec 10, 2021 · There was a lot of confusion after last night’s announcement by Blizzard of tier 5 content nerfs. 1 and 2. The raids were different, as Blizz changed their timeline for release (as well as their associated nerfs). Lol Old Blizz was just as awful at coding as New Blizz. Overall, a pretty big nerf to this encounter Contrary to a lot of other bosses in TBC and Dec 15, 2021 · Trinkets and consumables have been super important for guardian challenge pre-nerf for example. If Heroics will be AoE cleared on literally day 1-2, no boss until Vashj/Kael will present any zerg guild any form of challenge, and raids will be extremely faceroll until Sunwell (which also received some significant nerfs). For example, will Arcane Mages & Boomies just struggle towards the end of boss kills? The last thing we want to encourage is Jun 24, 2021 · In today's Patch 9. 4), they also nerfed the hitpoints of the bosses. Illidan is a long fight but not actually terribly hard, there is plenty of time for a player to screw up but any one screwup is less likely to wipe the raid compared to pre-nerf KT or Vashj. 1 (BT) patch which did away with buff stacking as well. Yes, maybe you need more than 5 attempts, but this is a CHALLENGE not a lootbox. Moroes is an interesting fight that isn't static, you could see 3 different plays for the Opera event, Shade of Aran is memorable for the flame wreath wipes, and is a cool fight in general like with his ability to poly everyone and drink, Netherspite was unique, the chess event was the first vehicle boss fight, Prince is a cool demon raining Classic TBC is going to be nerfed, and it's going to be easy. The only thing I generally had issues with was castigate, which hit for a ton before. We can only hope that this time around, the classic dev team will do a better job at evaluating the tuning Sep 16, 2024 · Good stuff but that last boss in Ara Kara is pure ass anyway. Bringing nerfs "in the next week or so" would line up with that, allowing the casual guilds to complete their attunements in the few weeks running up to December. 3 values) it will greatly diminish the difficulty in 90% of PVE content, with maybe Sunwell being the only exception. THIS INCLUDES a flat 30% nerf to ALL mobs and bosses in all raids and dungeons and removal om attunement quests. It's definitely fine to nerf content over time, but they used the XXL Nerf tm bat here. At that point it will be far more efficient to just run Kara every week for 22 badges in an hour or two (on top of your normal raids) than to bother with heroics. Mar 15, 2022 · If the raid is not hard in the begininng then there are no diffculty and reason to do it. Remember folks the same people who need these nerfs to do the content are the same people who screamed for the last 4 years for M+ to be harder and give worse loot then there precious dying mythic raiding. So we got it all in one, but I think the 2. Kaivax. There are several stages of TBC boss tuning: Launch 2. These bosses were ridiculously overtuned. This includes a 10% auto-attack nerf on live servers for all Mythic+ dungeons, specific nerfs to Necrotic Wake, Sanguine Depths and Theater of Pain, and more! Sunwell nerf is necessary. 3 had the 30% blanket nerf to all boss' hp values and I think some damage values, but all throughout tbc there were TONS of content nerfs. 1, which nerfed these bosses in original TBC, released 4 months after the expansion dropped. e. This vanilla-era engineering item has single-handedly dominated the parsing metagame with its powerful Battle Squawk buff, which grants 5% melee haste for 4 minutes to your entire party, stacking up to 5 times for a total of 27. Its hilarious because tbc classic was RELEASED in a post nerf state, so any and all whining about the sanctity of "pre-nerf" content is invalid. Jul 30, 2020 · Other than fixing bugs there weren’t many raid boss nerfs in classic patches. 0 state, where many bosses were bugged to hell or had specific mechanics overtuned. Quite some years ago I played a pre-nerf TBC realm with boosted HP and that was much better imo. If there was a fresh-TBC server, as well as a continued from classic one, all the players would stay where they are with their established community and existing character. For WoW Classic, the version of the boss at the time of launch was the final, the easiest version of the boss — after nerfs were implemented. It's weird and counterintuitive to massively nerf the raid every week for a content that's supposed to last for more than half a year. All last succesfull TBC had buffed (not just pre-nerfed) content. I think it's likely we will get next phase in December. Meanwhile, towards TBC, there is a much smoother balance between nerfs and buffs. I don’t get the grim batol struggles outside the last boss, who also felt manageable but def a step up. 3, The Burning Crusade expansion including the Mount Hyjal raid, is released on January 9, 2007. Oct 14, 2021 · Patch 2. Nov 17, 2020 · Pre nerf gruul Pre nerf mag Kil’jaeden Archimonde Hardest boss in TBC was still…my PC. Just let people have a smooth increase instead of an abnormal spike at the end. 6 fury warrior patch, somewhat with the mage patch for elemental precision (don’t remember number) and VASTLY from a detailed understanding of stat interaction and world buff stacking ability. Aug 27, 2021 · At one stage in the past TBC, they were nerf by 40%. Should have been 20-30% across the board nerfs at least with targeted nerfs even larger than that Comment by anxxyv Given that everything in Classic so far has been "post-nerf", I don't think we're going to see anything "pre-nerf" in TBC. This is something I approve of, everyone knew halls of valour was going to be a nightmare, it might need more in the future but this is a start. Also only reason why those "broken-ish" items were fun is because you discovered loophole with them. Every other nerf that hit the raid didn't occur until after TBC (notably the 3. Repeat of the sand boss in DOTI lol. Or I'd rather see them simply delete some packs but otherwise not nerf the packs. Alar is the only boss I actually found appealing in TK. its why i sound like i hate blizzard but i just dont trust them to do their job. Nov 9, 2021 · Kaivax just announced that Blizzard is planning to make adjustments to Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep, reverting 3 specific bosses to their post-nerf state from 2007 TBC, essentially nerfing them. Magtheridon is a boss that can be found in Magtheridon's Lair. Dec 17, 2021 · Patch 2. Just did Void Reaver and got a total of 10g (that was With scheduled weekly maintenance (August 31 in this region), we’ll release Patch 2. Several fights were practically redesigned after a few top guilds saw them. Good, but not good enough. Barkskin—No longer nerfs melee attack speed when active, making it a beneficial opener that can be cast prior to boss pulls with no downside. If half the player base is done I think it is more than OK to nerf the boss for the rest. Feb 6, 2024 · Remember guys, according to Tomrus it's not enough nerfs until you can pug the end tier mythic boss in LFG. I’d challenge anyone to give a legit, non-troll, non-toxic reason why these bosses shouldn’t be nerfed. We weren’t bad players, the majority of us had 90-99 parses each boss fight but it still wasn’t enough. If that is true - and I suspect it is - then this list depends on the version of They're mostly only tanking for aoe fights anyways, where nightfall is basically impossible to maintain uptime on (for multiple targets anyways). Comment by snakefloss on 2021-04-03T09:44:48-05:00. Those would be the differences : -Big tentacles spawn every 20 seconds pre nerf, 30 seconds post nerf. Comment by ichigosr5 on 2024-09-20T21:54:58-05:00. So, the fresh TBC server would have a different kind of community, but no bad thing I guess. 0 patch that nerfed all TBC raid mobs health and melee damage by 30%), and therefore have no place in TBCC. In retail 17000 killed first boss on HC only 1000 killed Mythic Sylvanas. The reduced hitpoints merely shorten the fights a bit. Most likely pre-nerf Vashj will be the hardest boss of TBC until M'uru. Sep 27, 2024 · Heroic Silken Court Nerf There's one change that would effect all players on Silken Court. However, if they fully wiped for all TBC servers, loads of players would quit. The phase 1 nerfs are mostly irrelevant, they just speed up attempts by a few minutes but won't really do anything for the difficulty. 3 content, there will be no additional nerfs to the dungeon content. 3 TBC, with honored keys, weak attunements, and nerfed content in general, if we don’t shout loud and clear what we really want from TBC. Blizzard went hard at the end of Vanilla too. If they do what they did in classic then tbc is screwed since the pve content got 10x more nerfs than vanilla. There is no use for a boss that is leaps and bounds harder than the rest of the raid, including the previous boss. Mythic Rashok and Zskarn? Hello? Nerf Rashok's aoe damage by -20% and hp by -10%. they coulda gotten it without the nerf. They released Chronoboons, got rid of spell batching, gave Alliance Paladins Seal of Blood, announced they'd be giving us pre-nerf TBC raids, and would be separating T4 and T5. However, many players like the challenge of the first A big part of pre nerf c'thun difficulty came from the bugs but there were still pretty important nerfs, the "mathematicaly impossible" didn't consider bugs. Comment by Ashreon on 2021-04-03T09:53 Jan 7, 2022 · Pretty straightforward answer; there just wasn’t a lot of sweeping changes to Tier 6 content after it was released. Attunements were removed by 2. The Lady Vashj encounter is one of the longest encounters in all of The Burning Crusade Classic and includes three unique phases that will require all members of the raid to be aware of their mechanics and how to properly handle them. It will allow casuals to progress faster and increase the hype for firelands, thoughts? Oct 31, 2021 · Having to use a spreadsheet with generated best in slot items just to kill a single raid boss is not good game design. People are quitting TBC classic en This is an interesting 2008 forum story about one of the hardest pre-nerf heroic dungeons from TBC times, just so you guys realize how much easier it was made: The modern Black Morass is one of the easiest heroics in the game. . nerf the boss in the middle of the fight from Liquid while the fight is doable but they make too many individual mistakes and you can see they are bad at choreo mechanics. Many bosses in TBC had some bugs that made it insanely hard to kill them if not impossible, idk if M'uru had one or not but it does not really matter. we have had enough years of them showing that they dont learn from mistakes and will make the same ones for over a decade but somehow im the bad I remember getting hard stuck on the last boss of Grim Batol with pugs that couldn't dodge his aoe mechanic, and the last boss of Halls of Origination with pugs who couldn't meet the dps checks. after 1 week: pushback removed. Great. There were also massive health nerfs of up to 40% on bosses, making kill times much faster. Dec 9, 2021 · These nerfs included major nerfs to Vashj that where not discussed as being part of the nerfs from Blizzards last post however so these may not be implemented. 12 values. If you saw 4 mobs in a Heroic, you'd CC 3 of them if you could. Good. No clue what that means for Kael. I can tell you exactly every detail on every boss, because I was there raiding sunwell during TBC. 3k guilds killed the first Sunwell boss Kalecgos. Brutallus - 10,500,000 HP And he is 2nd Boss Id say Kil'jaeden will have around 13,000,000 to 14,000,000 HP And he will most probably be too Uber, Like C'thun before Nerf. Kara was never truly hard, but the nerfs were meant to help it be more of a catch up raid as BT and later content launched. I would accept trash nerfs for people who just struggle to make it to the final bosses in their usual raid time, but the boss nerfs are extreme and trivialize raids that are already easy, not dissimilar to how the world buff meta ruined raiding in classic vanilla. m. If you didn't kill it up until now that's your problem. Muru is the hardest boss fight in all of TBC (and vanilla classic really). 107K subscribers in the wowservers community. 2 for Burning Crusade Classic. Nov 14, 2020 · As most of you know, all of the raid content released in Classic was not pre-nerf and was released at its 1. Anyone know? Also, how big of a nerf is the Vashj nerf? Feb 19, 2021 · Netherwhelp Pet for TBC Collectors Edition Owners; Patch 2. You only need 1 Binding Webs to stop the boss on Heroic difficulty. For Sunwell we had the first 4 bosses down week one, but we have yet to kill Muru. In an interview for PCGamer, production director Patrick Dawson and lead producer Holly Longdale, revealed that Classic The Burning Crusade will feature pre-nerf bosses at launch, since players have decades of knowledge at the content. Comment by GodsFaith on 2024-02-06T10:00:16-06:00. The old, pre-nerf Black Morass was a nightmare that required a geared shadow priest. Same with vashj. We don’t want the players leave Classic again. Not only is almost every aspect of the game nerfed from both a mechanical and tuning standpoint (boss abilities, boss numbers, talents, abilities, gear, etc. I find this endless effort to make playing world of Warcraft into an esport incredibly tiring. With the most recent update to The Burning Crusade Classic you are no longer required to become attuned to Tempest Keep to enter the instance, but completing the quest line that was formerly required will grant you the unique title "Hand of A'dal". Some bosses also get changed in their mechanic, Solarian doesnt give you the +50% Arcane Damage taken debuff that youre stacking on soakers, but actually just a bomb like on Geddon. Comment by Asarkhadon 100% seriously though, BT and hyjal are not harder than pre-nerf T5. Reply reply DulceReport Then at the final TBC patch (2. Now nerf Igira. In TBC the t4 raids (and especially kara) were meant… Feb 20, 2021 · This will be updated for Classic, and won’t be true to the original TBC. Cauchy-heartseeker August 27, 2021, 10:45pm Sep 20, 2024 · No nerfs to Grim Batol, especially that last boss. Nov 19, 2023 · 180+ pulls still not seeing into phase 3 and best pull is like 67% hp yea definitely needed. Comment by pipa94 on 2024-09-20T19:31:19-05:00. Bedge These nerfs arent even the sweeping nerfs that came in patch 2. This way BM still comes out on top, and it's a straight nerf. Many, many wipes. People keep referencing "pre-nerf" and "the nerfs" but it's a lot more complicated than that. (and pre-nerf is NOT a challenge at all when u know tactics) everyone was cursing at ClassicTBC because of nerfed difficulty and now u wanna make the same with private server. this raid is going to be so easy. The fights were nearly all mechanically more complex and difficult than Vanilla fights, and other than nerfs to a few specific bosses who were considered unbeatable before those nerfs (looking at you Kaelthas & M'uru), the nerfs were generally pretty mild. Aug 12, 2021 · #TBC #TK #AlarTBC Classic - Pre-Nerf Al'ar Boss GuideFirst attempt at a boss guide00:00 - Intro00:30 - Guide Start Oct 28, 2024 · Everything is about M+ and, to a lesser extent, mythic raiding. That would be his 3. Jun 14, 2021 · 国服将于15日开始在各个服务器陆续刷新世界boss,一共有两个,一个是“卡扎克”,一个是“末日行者”。 和60的世界boss不同,这些紫色装备和武器,都是装绑的,虽然装备等级仅为120和t4一样,但其中很多装备都是0耐多插槽,pve价值远超t4比肩t5,绝大多数护甲可以跨越klz和t4阶段用到换t5套,是tbc Apr 14, 2021 · If you’re saying we get whatever version of Kara that existed a month after release and with no nerfs in 2. after 4weeks (ish): slightly hp and dmg nerf of p1 adds and 5% p2 hp nerf. If content isnt put into phases by blizzard, people will kill illidan within a month. 1 onward I’m happy with that. If BM is still #1 then all this is, is a pure nerf to Hunters (again). AoTC guild group was having trouble at third boss. Interesting post! I don't think it's clear enough though whether this post is about the original 2007 nerfs or nerfs being made today, but I might be reading something wrong. Post 2. Considering blizz history of nerfing raids mid/late phase and the accelerated release schedule for cata classic i think imo its about time we start talking about this tier’s raids nerfs. Sep 9, 2024 · I recently played a "post-nerf" TBC realm and Karazhan was so easy it was kinda sad. There was a post on r/classicwow a while ago saying that the hardest heroic pre-nerf was Black Morass, that raiders prefered to go to Maghteridon pre-nerf than there, but it got incredibly nerfed two months into tbc (both damage and HP of bosses got down by 50%). The reduction of raid size will make it harder to carry people who don't perform well. Perfect timing, nerfing the boss when Echo is sound asleep while Liquid is in the middle of their progress May 30, 2023 · The stairs are almost harder to deal with that the boss! Comment by Wchr on 2023-05-30T20:30:39-05:00. If the same is done for TBC (everything being at 2. That said, difficulty should be based around 2. 3. The following week, we’ll end Arena Season 1 at 10:00 p. You going into raid expecting the boss to flop over in like 5 attempts as well? Jun 21, 2022 · All Sepulcher Nerfs Quick Notes This is a list of all nerfs and tuning changes to bosses in Sepulcher of the First Ones: Datamined Mythic tuning changes before Mythic raid release are not listed. TBC Classic is gonna be the same thing. These bosses are gatekeepers for both Hyjal and Black Temple - if they don’t become more killable for more guilds soon, we’re going to be Boss Nerfs Karazhan, Gruul, and Magtheridon will change from their pre-nerf version to a post-nerf version with the start of Phase 2. Comment by Happens on 2022-05-02T21:41:03-05:00. Oct 12, 2024 · all tbc players i know decide to play TBC because of challenge (and it's 100+ players). Reply reply More replies Nov 19, 2021 · Kael’thas is being reverted to his post-nerf state altogether, resulting in several nerfs; All of those changes will be coming with the weekly maintenance of the week of December 14, meaning guilds currently trying to make progress in those raids have just under one month to clear them before they are nerfed. In Legion, our artifact weapons had traits that helped us become OP week after week, so the usual zone wide buffs/nerfs were not needed. Jan 30, 2022 · The nerfs were so substantial that this lead Warcraft Logs to treat pre-nerf and post-nerf parses separately. In the post-nerf version, both the damage output and the health total of bosses are reduced. Dec 9, 2021 · Alongside next week's TBC Classic Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep boss nerfs, Blizzard has announced that players will no longer need to complete the attunements to zone into the raids. I suppose you could give one to the ret too for when the prot is tanking if you wanted (maybe like a fight where there's a boss +adds so you want pally tank but big damage on boss?) Oct 16, 2024 · And to me, the argument of preferring full post-nerf for the sake of nostalgia doesn't fly - because the content back in the day was initially much more challenging, before it was later nerfed. Now its very doable with super basic gear. Sunwell was a really hard raid, maybe the hardest one ever, but that doesn't make it well tuned, because some fights were 10 times easier leaving away certain classes (like mages) or stacking a class like shamans or locks. If the tank does his job and pulls the boss a bit on the way you came from, you get plenty of time to dodge both orbs. Also release in PRE NERF does not mean NO NERFS EVER so M'uru will get nerfed eventually. 62% haste. jlqunv ncxwxl zpatzg xdk star qnuazq vncr xolon euxvb ktghw